Episode 186: Do Animals Have Feelings?

Meet the Expert: Dr. Carl Safina,

Carl Safina

Carl Safina’s work explores how we are changing the natural world and what the changes mean for human and non-human beings. Carl sees that the durability of human dignity and survival of the natural world will depend on each other; we cannot preserve the wild unless we preserve human dignity, and we cannot conserve human dignity while continuing to degrade nature. His lyrical non-fiction writing fuses scientific understanding, emotional connection, and a moral call to action.

His work has won the Lannan Literary Award, Orion Book Award, National Academies’ Science Communication Award; the John Burroughs, James Beard, and George Rabb medals; Pew and Guggenheim fellowships, and a MacArthur “genius” fellowship.



Learn about the important work that Carl is doing through the Safina Center

The Safina Center

Tackling climate change; conserving living things; ensuring healthy, just human communities—or creating any necessary change—is not possible, unless people value the changes needed to let the living world survive, and humanity thrive.

That is the unique work of the Safina Center.

The Safina Center is a 501(c)3 nonprofit based on Long Island, N.Y.


Challenge:  Spend some time outside and make a list of the birds that you see. Learn more about them. 

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Alfie and Me book by Carl Safina


Highlighted Book for this Episode! 

Alfie and Me:What Owls Know, What Humans Believe
by Carl Safina (Author)

A moving account of raising, then freeing, an orphaned screech owl, whose lasting friendship with the author illuminates humanity’s relationship with the world.






Book List:

Bird Watching Book for Kids: A Journal to Observe and Record Your Birding Adventures by Kristine Rivers (Author)

The Fascinating Animal Book for Kids: 500 Wild Facts! by Ginjer Clarke

When Dinosaurs Conquered the Skies: The incredible story of bird evolution by Jingmai O’Connor (Author), Maria Brzozowska (Illustrator)

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